VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

drooopy · Dec 25, 2021

godkingxerxes said:
All Maya cares about is that fucking tuition, are you not bored of her saying this? I was tired of it in episode 1, but it continues, on and on and on and on again.

I agree with your point, but I'm not sure if maya's tuition "problem" is necessarily the main reason why she's annoying. Quinn has been having money problems since the beginning as well, yet she's cool nonetheless.

I think Maya's problem is that there's nothing like about her, it's that simple. I've no clue what's there to appreciate about her character.

For all it's worth maya is a great representation of an awkward college girl, I can't deny that.

Canto Forte · Dec 25, 2021

Maya has been lying to her father for years, countless years of fooling around.
She is a liar and a cheat, using boys to ghost her father.
What would you do to your brat who lied to you about being a lez years on end
but now resents you for not approving to something she never divulged?
It is clear her parents were not knowing and never giving a thought.
She likes to lie and cheat to get by. Tippycal hoe machinations
of entitlet brats scheming and defrauding their parents 4 money.

xinkala said:
Hmm soo we are arguing if Maya is selfish?

well here is my opinion.

Well we know that his father is an asshole. this tuition is kind of escape for her from her father. she need to finish college and get a degree or something to finally get away from him. if she fail, if she won't be able to finish college she have to return to her dickhead father and this is the last thing she want. Yea it's kind of annoying how she always talking and 'bitching' about that, but yea she has her reasons. And hell! All of us have some selfishness!

godkingxerxes said:
Jill's blackmail lasted two episodes and had multiple funny scenes. And was solved in a very satisfying way with her coming out of turtle shell and snapping on Tybalt.

Maya's tuition has been the focus of her character and I fear the solution will not help her grow as a character.

dalli_x said:
In all seriousness. Is Maya selfish about tuition? Yes. But the reason why should perhaps not be ignored. In EP6, it becomes clear that her own father is holding Maya's financial future hostage because she is in love with Josy (Girl). If I put myself in Maya's shoes (empathy), I would act the same way and try to get out of this hostage situation. But I'm just wondering if selfishness is the right word for it. How about self-preservation instinct and/or survival instinct.

clayjar said:
I dont think Maya is 'pretending to be good'. Her priority is to escape her father and she will do what she has to for that. In other aspects she has better morals than Quinn for sure (who has none), so maybe you mistake that for pretending to be good.

Heycock · Dec 25, 2021

And we reach the point were the homophobic guy who blackmail his own daughter with financially ruined her for being lesbian and choosing his own partner is a poor victim of a manipulative "hoe". Thanks god i am on the other side.

TajaRrR · Dec 25, 2021

dalli_x said:
In all seriousness. Is Maya selfish about tuition? Yes. But the reason why should perhaps not be ignored. In EP6, it becomes clear that her own father is holding Maya's financial future hostage because she is in love with Josy (Girl). If I put myself in Maya's shoes (empathy), I would act the same way and try to get out of this hostage situation. But I'm just wondering if selfishness is the right word for it. How about self-preservation instinct and/or survival instinct.

I agree her situation with her father is bad.
But my problem with her is what she herself is doing about it, she went to HOTs for only one reason and when she find out that the rumors are false (shocker) she hit Quinn and basically insulted whole sorority and was pissed (not for long but still) at Josy that she wants to stay there, like what? Just because Maya left, Josy doesn't have to.. That's selfish.

What if Sage won't be able to help her? She will be pissed at her to?
Or if she won't be able to help her because of mc previous action (with Jade for example) will she be pissed at MC to?

She expects help but she herself doesn't do anything to get out of the situation.

clayjar said:
I dont think Maya is 'pretending to be good'. Her priority is to escape her father and she will do what she has to for that. In other aspects she has better morals than Quinn for sure (who has none), so maybe you mistake that for pretending to be good.

But she is. She is always the one that has hard live, no one cares, her father is blackmailing her (this one is true). But she can't see that what she is doing with her behavior through out the series is center her problems in life of everyone around her.
And Yea Quinn morals are not good i agree with that. But she's still Queen

Canto Forte · Dec 25, 2021

Gold digging hoes doing what little they know to get the gold .. shocker!

Heycock · Dec 25, 2021

So we passed from selfish, to pretend to be good, to helpless.

Thats the "solid point", it changes with every comment.

ATN Develop · Dec 25, 2021

Canto Forte said:
Maya has been lying to her father for years, countless eyars of fooling around.
She is a liar and a cheat, using boys to ghost her father.
What would you do to your brat who lied to you about being a lez and
resents you now for .. not knowing and never giving a thought,
because she likes to lie and cheat to get by. Tippycal hoe machnations
of entitlet brats scheming and defrauding their parents 4 money.

okay and why she was lying to him? cuz she fucking asshole who doesn't care what she want?
trying to separate maye and josy cuz they are lesbians and not straight like religious saying?
oh yea that not a problem at all! she was lying because that was her only way?
using boys to ghost her father you say. hmm so what? he was controlling freak who was trying to control all aspect of her grown ass adult daughter? she knew that if his father would find out her relationship with josy it would be an end for her college time. using boys is way to avoid all this shit storm.
you say using parent for money right? soo like everyone!

godkingxerxes · Dec 25, 2021

TajaRrR said:
I agree her situation with her father is bad.
But my problem with her is what she herself is doing about it, she went to HOTs for only one reason and when she find out that the rumors are false (shocker) she hit Quinn and basically insulted whole sorority and was pissed (not for long but still) at Josy that she wants to stay there, like what? Just because Maya left, Josy doesn't have to.. That's selfish.

What if Sage won't be able to help her? She will be pissed at her to?
Or if she won't be able to help her because of mc previous action (with Jade for example) will she be pissed at MC to?

She expects help but she herself doesn't do anything to get out of the situation.

Her putting on that HOT uniform at the end of the season, so insulting to the sorority that she shit all over since day 1.

I can see it now, Burke shows the video of MC fucking Jade, and her and Sage start fighting, Tybalt is screaming about hot MC ruined his life by getting with Jill.

And in the mist of all this real shit, real problems, Maya sitting the corner crying about her tuition. And why does nobody care about her problems.

TajaRrR · Dec 25, 2021

godkingxerxes said:
Her putting on that HOT uniform at the end of the season, so insulting to the sorority that she shit all over since day 1.

I can see it now, Burke shows the video of MC fucking Jade, and her and Sage start fighting, Tybalt is screaming about hot MC ruined his life by getting with Jill.

And in the mist of all this real shit, real problems, Maya sitting the corner crying about her tuition. And why does nobody care about her problems.

Exactly!

I can see it to, how she would only see herself and her own problems.
But we are wrong like always

RonWeasleyJr · Dec 25, 2021

DPC says he/she will be trying some different things for the interlude. I hope we get narration from Zoey.

I always loved narrators in hentai VN's, the first person narration in the X-Change games is great and really erotic:

"As both men pumped into me, a loud ringing erupted in my ears as waves of pleasure washed over me.

'Oh God, I'm cumming!'

Inside my uterus, a hot flow of semen."

godkingxerxes · Dec 25, 2021

dalli_x said:
I think her personal development is good considering she is an introvert. I just remember the Cluck tag that Maya initiated, if only unintentionally. "Fuck you Dawe." She even apologizes right after. But she did take a step forward. In EP8, the progress of all the LI's is actually easy to see.

Well, except for Quinn. She's making progress interpersonally, but she's regressing in terms of her drug dealing, through no fault of her own. It's Lily's fault, who somehow isn't at fault because she's just looking for a cheaper drug supplier and finds it in Quinn. The real problem is caused by Vinny, who sells the drugs to the Pink Rose Girls at too high a price. But Vinny is not going to stand idly by while Quinn serves his customers. So we can assume that DPC will stage a new drama with Quinn and Lily at this point.

Compare my objective paragraph about Quinn, Lily and Vinny with your posts about Maya.

Quinn, Lily and Vinnie all have progressive and interesting stories going forward. Maya doesn't.

I am looking forward to the inevitable confrontation between Quinn and Vinnie. Going to be awesome.

Kellermann · Dec 25, 2021

After absences, it's good to see some things never change: debates about our girl Maya.
Hope everyone had a happy Saturnalia!

I'm in such a fine mood that I hope a happy new year for all the characters in game, even the ones I occasionally loathe.

Heycock · Dec 25, 2021

Of course to claim that Maya is helpless couse she doesnt fix her problems, needs that there is actually a solution on Maya hands. Otherwise is pointless.
Now first forget what you know about college education. In my country for example is totally free, so the whole problem is nonsense. In Badik world things doesnt work like in your country. In Badik world a coca-cola cost the same than Camila's ass.
So what we know about paying education?. We don't know about a single student who pays their education, the only exception are thoose who became prostitutes.
So, either you completely make out an obvious solution for Maya, in orther to make her inactivity absurd, even if that's means to unnecesary make the plot senseless....

Or you don't know a solution... just like Maya...

Or you claim Maya should prostitute herself, and you hate her because she doesn't become a prostitute. She should be out of the game and the college couse she doesn't want to be a prostitute:

Congratulations guys, you got:

The Burke golden award:

Canto Forte · Dec 25, 2021

How is she awkword? Are boys not swoonig over her?
She likes to crush hearts and get both guys and girls hot for her, a real hoe.
In the shade of being so popular, her gold digging goes on unnoticed.
The perks of changing partners so often.
She is for a long time a sorority girl, part of a dozen fantastic looking girls
the boy frats use for sex and drugs and happy times.
How is she different or feeling any social pressure is beyond MC.

Canto Forte · Dec 25, 2021

You do not need to change a thing .. she is so used to bang josy behind her father back
then bang MC in his face that you can pull this whole franchise off no problem.

Heycock said:
Of course to claim that Maya is helpless couse she doesnt fix her problems, needs that there is actually a solution on Maya hands. Otherwise is pointless.
Now first forget what you know about college education. In my country for example is totally free, so the whole problem is nonsense. In Badik world things doesnt work like in your country. In Badik world a coca-cola cost the same than Camila's ass.
So what we know about paying education. We son't know about a single student who pays their education, the only exception are thoose who became prostitutes.
So, either you completely make out an obvious solution for Maya,so her inactivity is absurd, even if that's means to unnecesary make the plot senseless....

Or you claim Maya should prostitute herself, and you hate her because she doesn't become a prostitute. She should be out of the game and the college couse she doesn't want to be a prostitute:

Congratulations guys, you got:

The Burke golden award:

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Heycock · Dec 25, 2021

Canto Forte said:
she is so used to bang josy behind her father back

The guts of that girl!!!!! She dare to choose her own sexual partners!!!!

kyrlian · Dec 25, 2021

clayjar said:
I dont think Maya is 'pretending to be good'. Her priority is to escape her father and she will do what she has to for that. In other aspects she has better morals than Quinn for sure (who has none), so maybe you mistake that for pretending to be good.

What kind of morals has Maya? she betrays her values joining 'a bunch of sluts'(her words) to get money from the HOTs and gets angry when there is none because she believes she is entitled to the free tuition and that was the sole purpose of pledging, yeah she doesn't even stay for free acommodation (that may help her) and doesn't mind to say byebye to the other HOTs, who are kind to her without even knowing her because you know she is the damsel in distress.

She gets angry at least twice with poor Josy who is helping her, she lies, asks for honesty while being dishonest and plays the victim when needed to get what she wants, nothing is ever her fault neither she does something to solve her problems, she just waits for others to solve them. She is not like her brother who is willing to help and work.

felicemastronzo · Dec 25, 2021

Kellermann said:
After absences, it's good to see some things never change: debates about our girl Maya.
Hope everyone had a happy Saturnalia!

I'm in such a fine mood that I hope a happy new year for all the characters in game, even the ones I occasionally loathe.

there are too few Kellermann s in this world

Warscared · Dec 25, 2021

Heycock said:
Of course to claim that Maya is helpless couse she doesnt fix her problems, needs that there is actually a solution on Maya hands. Otherwise is pointless.
Now first forget what you know about college education. In my country for example is totally free, so the whole problem is nonsense. In Badik world things doesnt work like in your country. In Badik world a coca-cola cost the same than Camila's ass.
So what we know about paying education?. We don't know about a single student who pays their education, the only exception are thoose who became prostitutes.
So, either you completely make out an obvious solution for Maya, in orther to make her inactivity absurd, even if that's means to unnecesary make the plot senseless....

Or you don't know a solution... just like Maya...

Or you claim Maya should prostitute herself, and you hate her because she doesn't become a prostitute. She should be out of the game and the college couse she doesn't want to be a prostitute:

Congratulations guys, you got:

The Burke golden award:

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thank you, thank you, thank you!

to win this prestigious award as been a long life dream of mine ever since i heard of it like 5 minutes ago!

i would like to thank my father,
and ofc my mother,
and ofc MR. Johnson the bartender
who helped my father get my mother drunk!

because seriously it could not have been love
or else they would have not divorced
and me spending my life broken, between 2 homes!

but on serious note Heycock she could get a job waiting tables or working as a gym receptionist!
that she does not even consider it makes her a weak minded character prone to be abused by exploiters

just thank DPC that there is no corruption path from the MC and the Burke and Quinn one´s are not credible or else she would be perfect to go down on Burke literally!

Heycock · Dec 25, 2021

Warscared said:
but on serious note @Heycock she could get a job waiting tables or working as a gym receptionist!
that she does not even consider it makes her a weak minded character prone to be abused by exploiters

Yeah, you totally deserve the award.
On a serious note. You asume that she can afford to pay two college tuition (thats what she needs) with a minimum wage job.
Again in my country you can do it couse you would need 0 dollars. In Chile for example is completely imposible. In Badik world... what makes you think thats a posibility?
The only thing you achieve by doing so is to ruin Maya as a character and to make the entire plot absurd. Not a single one of the characters Maya talk with even suggest that posibility. Sage, Josy, even the MC are so dumb they can't think an obvious solution for themselfs and sugest to her friend. So you ruin the entire plot.... for what?

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