FatYoda

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The Dev has stated that the MC can't see Liz thoughts in chat, the MC can only see alerts like "heart spike". He also said the MC stats app is different from the player one.
yeah but after weeks of seeing "heart spikes" and "labored breathing" while she's at work and asking "are you ok?" or "is everything ok" or "how's lunch" while she's panting through her lunch break to only get "yeah i'm ok" or "everything is fine" with vague explanations over and over...he should have suspicions at least...especially since those are the exact readings he gets when she's masturbating and sending him pics at night. Shes in the middle of a "meeting" at work when he comes to visit her and he's getting those notifications. He should immediately know something is going on. By the time she sent the picture of her in the shower to him rather than Matt and went into panic mode when he asked about it he should already have been extremely suspiscious...

EDIT: oh...and the nanobots provide sound...so he's hearing sex noises whle that's going on too.
 
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whitewolf1990

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Ntr path richard gives new update then from the place where we buy ring there is another section with several things which are locked , it has no pictures
Thanks! I wonder if this message will be revealed in the other paths too. Maybe at a later time on the lovers path. helps add context to whats going on
 

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yeah but after weeks of seeing "heart spikes" and "labored breathing" while she's at work and asking if "are you ok?" or "is everything ok" to only get yeah i'm ok with vague explanations over and over...he should have suspicions at least...especially since those are the exact readings he gets when she's masturbating and sending him pics at night. Shes in the middle of a "meeting" at work when he comes to visit her and he's getting those notifications. He should immediately know something is going on.
Well basicly the pink text you see, is something the MC doesn't see, only the alert spike, that something happening and the app data being updated, but the app data confuse the MC as he knows what he done with Laura and yet the data show she done more things then that. So yea is a bit worried, but due that Richard confirmed it a bit that data can be wrong he don't look to much into it. Overall the pink text is more ment for the player to feel more the pain of being cheated on, to feel being betrayed and such. Some people kick on that.
 

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Well basicly the pink text you see, is something the MC doesn't see, only the alert spike, that something happening and the app data being updated, but the app data confuse the MC as he knows what he done with Laura and yet the data show she done more things then that. So yea is a bit worried, but due that Richard confirmed it a bit that data can be wrong he don't look to much into it. Overall the pink text is more ment for the player to feel more the pain of being cheated on, to feel being betrayed and such. Some people kick on that.
yes, but he sees, "labored breathing", "heart spikes", and the big kicker...the nanobots provide sound remember...so he's hearing her moans and seeing "labored breathing" and "heart spikes" while shes in an office in a meeting at work. oh...and also the sound of her sucking dick too "slurp slurp slurp" labored breathing, choking, and heart spikes...wtf else is she doing????
 

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Thanks! I wonder if this message will be revealed in the other paths too. Maybe at a later time on the lovers path. helps add context to whats going on
Not sure it has much meaning on the lovers path, also on lovers path we get Sam's fortune teller comics, so we will get to see comics where Laura does things with Matt that didn't happen on the Lovers Path because MC hindered it, but it will affect the MC, maybe into liking NTS or even panick and screw up thinking Laura cheat on him. The other app Richard give is more to confirm that Laura did cheat on him and did things with Matt to secure her bonusses and health assurance for her mom, and in the end liking what Matt does.
 

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yes, but he sees, "labored breathing", "heart spikes", and the big kicker...the nanobots provide sound remember...so he's hearing her moans and seeing "labored breathing" and "heart spikes" while shes in an office in a meeting at work.
This. Its one thing if its just simple text like heart spikes. but the nanobots send audio to both the player and the MC. So its within reason that the MC should at least suspect something after some of the office interactions between Liz and Matt. Also, the MC should definitely be aware of something after speaking with Sam and how she tells the MC that Matt is bad news and eyeing Liz. That and how Liz at the beginning bad mouths Matt, but the MC keeps pushing her to "be strong". Just some questionable writing and mechanics that don't mesh well with the lovers path.
 
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yeah but after weeks of seeing "heart spikes" and "labored breathing" while she's at work and asking "are you ok?" or "is everything ok" or "how's lunch" while she's panting through her lunch break to only get "yeah i'm ok" or "everything is fine" with vague explanations over and over...he should have suspicions at least...especially since those are the exact readings he gets when she's masturbating and sending him pics at night. Shes in the middle of a "meeting" at work when he comes to visit her and he's getting those notifications. He should immediately know something is going on. By the time she sent the picture of her in the shower to him rather than Matt and went into panic mode when he asked about it he should already have been extremely suspiscious...

EDIT: oh...and the nanobots provide sound...so he's hearing sex noises whle that's going on too.
When she send the L82 picture on the Lovers/Happy path, Liz add a line of text "Tsk... Is that good enough". It is strange to add this line for the MC. And when she see him react she has an heart spike as if she wasn't expecting this reaction. For me that means this picture is destined to Matt and she send it to the MC by mistake.

And for the sounds, the MC don't get them it is for the player only
 

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Not sure it has much meaning on the lovers path, also on lovers path we get Sam's fortune teller comics, so we will get to see comics where Laura does things with Matt that didn't happen on the Lovers Path because MC hindered it, but it will affect the MC, maybe into liking NTS or even panick and screw up thinking Laura cheat on him. The other app Richard give is more to confirm that Laura did cheat on him and did things with Matt to secure her bonusses and health assurance for her mom, and in the end liking what Matt does.
Yea i played up to the part where Sam mentions the fortune teller. I haven't done much of the other paths yet so I don't know how much the story goes into Liz mom, but the lovers path does mention going to see her with the MC. I haven't seen the other app Richard gives *showing messages between Liz and Matt i assume*. It just kinda sucks that the only way for the MC to get full confirmation so far is to either NTS or NTR path. Like you have to accept her cheating or like her cheating. Im just nit picking though I guess
 

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This. Its one thing if its just simple text like heart spikes. but the nanobots send audio to both the player and the MC. So its within reason that the MC should at least suspect something after some of the office interactions between Liz and Matt. Also, the MC should definitely be aware of something after speaking with Sam and how she tells the MC that Matt is bad news and eyeing Liz. That and how Liz at the beginning bad mouths Matt, but the MC keeps pushing her to "be strong". Just some questionable writing and mechanics that don't mesh well with the lovers path.
exactly we have gone from a guy trusting his gf is a good girl and ignoring things...to just outright obliviousness. Especially at the end when Richard is dumbfounded because he's getting reading that would suggest she is doing something with the MC, but MC isn't anywhere near her...but rather than even start to have suspicions then he just changes the topic.
 
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yes, but he sees, "labored breathing", "heart spikes", and the big kicker...the nanobots provide sound remember...so he's hearing her moans and seeing "labored breathing" and "heart spikes" while shes in an office in a meeting at work. oh...and also the sound of her sucking dick too "slurp slurp slurp" labored breathing, choking, and heart spikes...wtf else is she doing????
Yea that something I still not sure about, how can Nanobots send sounds to MC's phone, i think that is something that happen where Laura is, how she is moaning and gulping and flicking the bean, although that last sound sounded kinda wrong, it was an annoying ticking of wooden item against a desk more. Didn't sounded like a girl flicking her bean. Well I don't mind, but to me it seemed the MC didn't hear it, if he does then he really really stupid not to react on it, he didn't even knew she was playing herself when she asked him what he thinks she doing.
 
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Yea i played up to the part where Sam mentions the fortune teller. I haven't done much of the other paths yet so I don't know how much the story goes into Liz mom, but the lovers path does mention going to see her with the MC. I haven't seen the other app Richard gives *showing messages between Liz and Matt i assume*. It just kinda sucks that the only way for the MC to get full confirmation so far is to either NTS or NTR path. Like you have to accept her cheating or like her cheating. Im just nit picking though I guess
You can have this conversation if you let her return home instead of going to MC place at the beginning of the update
 

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Yea that something I still not sure about, how can Nanobots send sounds to MC's phone, i think that is something that happen where Laura is, how she is moaning and gulping and flicking the bean, although that last sound sounded kinda wrong, it was an annoying ticking of wooden item against a desk more. Didn't sounded like a girl flicking her bean. Well I don't mind, but to me it seemed the MC didn't hear it, if he does then he really really stupid not to react on it, he didn't even knew she was playing herself when she asked him what he thinks she doing.
Isn't her name Liz? Are you confusing her with Laura from Netorase Phone?
 

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Yea that something I still not sure about, how can Nanobots send sounds to MC's phone, i think that is something that happen where Laura is, how she is moaning and gulping and flicking the bean, although that last sound sounded kinda wrong, it was an annoying ticking of wooden item against a desk more. Didn't sounded like a girl flicking her bean. Well I don't mind, but to me it seemed the MC didn't hear it, if he does then he really really stupid not to react on it, he didn't even knew she was playing herself when she asked him what he thinks she doing.
you can't just say he must not be hearing it, they've already told you he is hearing it. I really like this path 2 updates ago, but it's gone from willful ignorance on his part to just outright absurdity that he doesn't even have suspicions. Especially since her best friend has been in a panic saying he needs to protect her from this guy since almost the beginning of the game. That all by itself would put any normal man on edge. I understand that all of these are plot devices designed to tell us what's going on cause who would want to play this game if we didn't have any insight into what she's doing...but it's getting too absurd at this point.
 
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Yea i played up to the part where Sam mentions the fortune teller. I haven't done much of the other paths yet so I don't know how much the story goes into Liz mom, but the lovers path does mention going to see her with the MC. I haven't seen the other app Richard gives *showing messages between Liz and Matt i assume*. It just kinda sucks that the only way for the MC to get full confirmation so far is to either NTS or NTR path. Like you have to accept her cheating or like her cheating. Im just nit picking though I guess
I did all the paths, as i have this addiction on getting as much can 100% results in game, but yes as woman i don't like Matt a single bit and I dislike the NTR path, Netorase I like as i'm in open relation myself, but it has to be with people we like, not like this douche of a Matt. But i'm also interested to get a glimps on Liz's family, her mother, wonder what kind of woman she is.
 

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Yea that something I still not sure about, how can Nanobots send sounds to MC's phone, i think that is something that happen where Laura is, how she is moaning and gulping and flicking the bean, although that last sound sounded kinda wrong, it was an annoying ticking of wooden item against a desk more. Didn't sounded like a girl flicking her bean. Well I don't mind, but to me it seemed the MC didn't hear it, if he does then he really really stupid not to react on it, he didn't even knew she was playing herself when she asked him what he thinks she doing.
As i said earlier the MC don't get the thoughts or the sounds. It is for the player only.This has been confirmed by the dev
 

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you can't just say he must not be hearing it, they've already told you he is hearing it. I really like this path 2 updates ago, but it's gone from willful ignorance on his part to just outright absurdity that he doesn't even have suspicions. Especially since her best friend has been in a panic saying he needs to protect her from this guy since almost the beginning of the game. That all by itself would put any normal man on edge. I understand that all of these are plot devices designed to tell us what's going on cause who would want to play this game if we didn't have any insight into what she's doing...but it's getting too absurd at this point.
Well that just silly then, that like SAO where MC seeing his gf being humped but thinks she is doing hard work, I mean I don't get why they tend to make MC in ntr games look like oblivious, def and blind fools. Any normal guy can see that something is off. I know it has to be NTR, but it more fun if it happens behind MC back and he doesn't know, but the minute he finds out he hurt and get accusive to her for cheating on him.
 
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Yea sorry my bad, Liz, I play the other one too, and I tend to rename mc and his gf when can and then forgot the real names. But yea Liz.
How have i never seen this one. It sounds much more my speed than this. As much as i like this game it definitely toes the line for me between keeping me interested and causing emotional pain because of my past traumas...or more like my GF's past emotional trauma...but you have no idea how it feels to be a man who is completely helpless to help the woman he loves. I shouldn't play games like this with blackmail content, but i was just hoping to save her.... Anyway, i'm glad someone mentioned this, gonna have to check this one out now.
 

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As i said earlier the MC don't get the thoughts or the sounds. It is for the player only.This has been confirmed by the dev
Okay that makes more sense like i thought to make the feeling for players harder, the feeling of being cheated on and such or the thrill of hearing your gf having good fun.
 
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